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Saturday, June 23, 2018


There's so much that there will be a part 3 and will continue from time to time as a series.  The Lord addresses people groups, and the main messages he wanted me to give was for Whites, Blacks, Latinos, Natives, and Asians.  The lord has given me the largest most extensive messages for: Blacks, Whites, and Latinos.  The fate of Blacks and everybody is intertwined, and Blacks are the glue that binds everybody together.

Joel 3:3
[3]And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink.

Lamentations 5 King James Version (KJV)

Remember, O Lord, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach.
Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens.
We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers are as widows.
We have drunken our water for money; our wood is sold unto us.
Our necks are under persecution: we labour, and have no rest.
We have given the hand to the Egyptians, and to the Assyrians, to be satisfied with bread.
Our fathers have sinned, and are not; and we have borne their iniquities.
Servants have ruled over us: there is none that doth deliver us out of their hand.
We gat our bread with the peril of our lives because of the sword of the wilderness.
10 Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine.
11 They ravished the women in Zion, and the maids in the cities of Judah.
12 Princes are hanged up by their hand: the faces of elders were not honoured.
13 They took the young men to grind, and the children fell under the wood.
14 The elders have ceased from the gate, the young men from their musick.
15 The joy of our heart is ceased; our dance is turned into mourning.
16 The crown is fallen from our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned!
17 For this our heart is faint; for these things our eyes are dim.
18 Because of the mountain of Zion, which is desolate, the foxes walk upon it.
19 Thou, O Lord, remainest for ever; thy throne from generation to generation.
20 Wherefore dost thou forget us for ever, and forsake us so long time?
21 Turn thou us unto thee, O Lord, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.
22 But thou hast utterly rejected us; thou art very wroth against us.

Exodus 12:40

Ezekiel 5- ONLY All True Israel will be saved.
And thou, son of man, take thee a sharp knife, take thee a barber's razor, and cause it to pass upon thine head and upon thy beard: then take thee balances to weigh, and divide the hair.
Thou shalt burn with fire a third part in the midst of the city, when the days of the siege are fulfilled: and thou shalt take a third part, and smite about it with a knife: and a third part thou shalt scatter in the wind; and I will draw out a sword after them.
Thou shalt also take thereof a few in number, and bind them in thy skirts.
Then take of them again, and cast them into the midst of the fire, and burn them in the fire; for thereof shall a fire come forth into all the house of Israel.
Thus saith the Lord God; This is Jerusalem: I have set it in the midst of the nations and countries that are round about her.
And she hath changed my judgments into wickedness more than the nations, and my statutes more than the countries that are round about her: for they have refused my judgments and my statutes, they have not walked in them.
Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Because ye multiplied more than the nations that are round about you, and have not walked in my statutes, neither have kept my judgments, neither have done according to the judgments of the nations that are round about you;
Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I, even I, am against thee, and will execute judgments in the midst of thee in the sight of the nations.
And I will do in thee that which I have not done, and whereunto I will not do any more the like, because of all thine abominations.
10 Therefore the fathers shall eat the sons in the midst of thee, and the sons shall eat their fathers; and I will execute judgments in thee, and the whole remnant of thee will I scatter into all the winds.
11 Wherefore, as I live, saith the Lord God; Surely, because thou hast defiled my sanctuary with all thy detestable things, and with all thine abominations, therefore will I also diminish thee; neither shall mine eye spare, neither will I have any pity.
12 A third part of thee shall die with the pestilence, and with famine shall they be consumed in the midst of thee: and a third part shall fall by the sword round about thee; and I will scatter a third part into all the winds, and I will draw out a sword after them.
13 Thus shall mine anger be accomplished, and I will cause my fury to rest upon them, and I will be comforted: and they shall know that I the Lord have spoken it in my zeal, when I have accomplished my fury in them.
14 Moreover I will make thee waste, and a reproach among the nations that are round about thee, in the sight of all that pass by.
15 So it shall be a reproach and a taunt, an instruction and an astonishment unto the nations that are round about thee, when I shall execute judgments in thee in anger and in fury and in furious rebukes. I the Lord have spoken it.
16 When I shall send upon them the evil arrows of famine, which shall be for their destruction, and which I will send to destroy you: and I will increase the famine upon you, and will break your staff of bread:
17 So will I send upon you famine and evil beasts, and they shall bereave thee: and pestilence and blood shall pass through thee; and I will bring the sword upon thee. I the Lord have spoken it.

- The coming Police Riots= we will win and be given concessions.  They will call it "reparations' when it's just a temporary stop gap
- Camps now used to break us into the idea of these camps as "acceptable."
- First the Latin Israelites- They have been made so poor they are leaving their kids behind to be able to do what they want with them.  Latina children are being raped left and right (Isaiah 13:16).  This is just a preview of what will happen to Black Females.
- Hebrew baby plot- This is why they cut the welfare and are about to get rid of credit entirely.  The Plan is to make you so poor they will separate you from your children.  No different than the Migrants.  Then they can get your children into camps and do whatever they want with them, etc..
- The Ezekiel 5 2/3rds of our people dying prophecy is really going to happen because of the Earth Changes and the machinations of those against us.  Blacks live in the most vulnerable areas of America to climate change.
- Speaking about Climate Change Have you ever heard of Ham Shem and Afra land divisions within Africa?  This is first time I have introduced this concept, but most certainly not the last.

They have been trying to use forces within these movements to break America up into these divisions.

My dear friend Anita Belle is running US Senate in Michigan.  While I was in prison she tried to get me out, but it did not work.  Nothing, but an act of God was going to get me out of prison at that time, and God said NO!  She is one of many 2020ers I know, and is one who will take the deal.  

Race Relations

As mentioned previously, the Egyptians, Dogon, people indigenous to the American continents, such as the Mayans and Aztecs, formed treaties or covenants with celestial beings.  Opening space trade and travel means fixing Michigan's relationship to with our fellow inhabitants currently on Earth.  Anita Belle, as President of the Reparations Labor Union, female co-chair of the Detroit Chapter of NCOBRA, and a national board member of NCOBRA (the National Coalition of Blacks for Reparations in America) has worked to repair race relations by conducting reparations and racial reconciliation workshops with predominantly white religious and secular groups. 
Population statistics predict that African-Americans and Hispanic Americans will be the majority in the United States within the next 25 years.  Many Hispanics have DNA which descends from various indigenous/Native American peoples such as the Mayans, Aztecs, and Olmecs.  The Reparations Labor Union has calculated that, as of 2017, the United States owes $7 billion to each African-American, a debt that pre-dates the Federal Reserve and debts to other nations except for the debt owed to indigenous people of the American continents.  At the current cost of white males' labor, it would take America more than 33,000 years to pay off its debt to African-Americans.  How can America's debt be paid quicker?  Do we prepare for America's "minority-majority" future by creating racists systems of minority ruling caste such as was done in apartheid South Africa to avoid debt repayment?  Such a plan for the future would eventually lead to a civil/race war.  Instead, do we strive for what is being negotiated in Israel-Palestine, a peaceful two-state solution?   
A two-state solution for the United States could look like blacks and the indigenous, defined by DNA, form a separate nation-state with land boundaries consisting of the west bank of the Mississippi River eastward to the Atlantic Ocean.  The payment of land would greatly reduce the payment of money the United States would owe people of African descent because the negotiation with the indigenous would involve granting contiguous states in the new nation to blacks, along with self-determination.  The newly formed nation-state would then negotiate a peace, travel, and trade treaty with the re-constituted United States.  Both nations would maintain nuclear and other self-defenses and could negotiate nuclear disarmament.   
It's time for Michigan to bravely begin the national negotiation of how to repay this national debt owed and begin righting the wrongs inflicted upon the indigenous and people of African descent.  This could be racial reconciliation and the peaceful and loving fulfillment of the 400-years prophecy in Genesis 15 and the Mayan's prophecy of the repentance of the people of Kukulkan.  In honor of the 400-years prophecy, Michigan should spearhead national implementation of a negotiated reparations strategy by the end of 2019, the 400th anniversary of slavery in the British colony that became the United States.
You think those Africans wont sell you (especially the Females) to the Saudi Arabians.  Be careful with this stuff as you will be total targets for exploitation.

Anti tax Libertarians secretly want you in camps so bad.  
Ted Hilton
Taxpayer Revolution

The U.S. must reform the criminal justice system.  We must parole inmates to jobs rather than to the streets which can deter the 70% recidivism rate in California.  The latest data shows that if a parolee works for over six months their chance of committing another crime drops below 10%.  (America Works, Oakland)  The entry level jobs in services, landscaping and construction can be a part of their parole.  Sentencing guidelines should be reformed to allow certain non-violent and minor drug offenders to hold jobs typically held by unauthorized aliens.  They should meet certain monitoring and parole requirements.  Currently, many low-level offenders become more corrupt as a result from incarceration in prison.
Inmates can work in agriculture as in Colorado and other states.  Colorado farmers have agreed to pay prison inmates and replace illegal farm workers. Colorado already has internal agricultural jobs in its’ prison system: growing flowers, raising bees and cultivating wine grapes.  Prisoners also manufacture items ranging from plastic bags to furniture.
Future prisons should be built near agricultural areas.  White collar criminals can also do part of their sentence in the service, construction and agricultural sectors.  State law should require judges to sentence some convicted of petty crimes to jobs, who can wear ankle monitors, rather than being sent to prison.  Drunk drivers and certain other offenders who now serve short sentences, must be sentenced also for a period of time to low paying jobs after serving a prison sentence for vehicular manslaughter while driving drunk.   Many other more serious offenders should after being released from a short time in prison be paroled to work for a period of time in hotel, restaurant and other jobs.
The United States has an entitlement fraud problem.  Disability recipients have increased over 900%, per population, since 1960 while the workplace has become safer.  The U.S. has created 8.8 million non-farm jobs in the last 15 years but added 4.1 million to the disability rolls.  Taxpayer Revolution is now calling for exams for all disability recipients.  When Great Britain required re-examinations of all disability recipients, one third disappeared.  We advocate the U.S. must take the same course.

A looming question about family separations: where are the girls?

A lot of questions remain.

Migrant girls at a Health and Human Services facility in Homestead, Florida.
 Department of Health and Human Services

In the uproar over immigrant children being separated from their parents at the US-Mexico border, one question keeps coming back up: Where are all the girls?
Wednesday night, the Department of Health and Human Services gave a partial answer by releasing a few photos — but members of Congress aren’t satisfied.
Nearly 30 percent of the unaccompanied minors who have entered the US have been girls, according to a figure released by HHS. But girls (and babies and toddlers) haven’t been shown in the photos of shelters where migrant children are being kept. And little has been shared about where girls are sent after they are separated from their parents and put into HHS custody.
For days, HHS officials seemed resistant to disclose this information, even as lawmakers and reporters pressed the agency on the question — prompting growing concern from immigration advocates and a flurry of social media activity asking #WhereAreTheGirls.

Where are the girls? I fear that they could be victims of human trafficking and want to be sure they are free from any pressure, know their rights and know how to report any abridgement of those rights.

I am increasingly uneasy that there are no photographs released by DHS of any of the facilities for girls who have been separated from their parents. The American public deserves to know and see what’s happening to all of these children.

? @RepAnnieKuster and I led a letter with more than 50 women in the House pressing the Trump Administration to release details about immigrant children separated from their parents.
In the letter, we ask @DHSgov and @HHSGov to give specifics as to how many children have been separated, how many facilities are housing them, how their safety and care are being ensured, and what the plans are for family reunification.
Immigration advocates have highlighted numerous concerns about threats that girls, especially, could encounter in detention, according to Time’s Abby Vesoulis:
Migrant rights groups say they are concerned about the risks that girls and young women face in detention, noting issues such as pregnancy, sexual assault, menstruation and psychological trauma from assault and rape they faced in their home countries.
A facility in Houston is accused of improperly medicating migrant children, both boys and girls. And at a detention center for boys in Virginia, teenagers who crossed the border alone were allegedly beaten and handcuffed — cases that have raised bigger questions about how shelters treat children and highlighted how much we don’t know about where they’re being held.
On Monday, DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen didn’t do much to ease concerns, deflecting a query on the issue during the White House’s press conference. “I don’t know,” she said simply, and directed reporters to consult HHS.
Rep. Mark Pocan (D-WI), however, provided some insight following his visit to a Brownsville, Texas, shelter, telling the Washington Post, “There are separate facilities for younger children; there are separate facilities for girls.”

A lot of you have asked where the girls and younger children are held. The former Walmart detention facility houses boys 10-17. Girls and younger children are held at separate facilities. Unfortunately, some are as far away as Miami and New York.

HHS offers some answers

On Wednesday evening, the agency finally released photos and video that offer some more concrete details. (HHS also shared some images on Tuesday, but those were dated to 2016,before the Trump administration took office.)
Unaccompanied girls have been sent to at least two coed shelters located in Homestead, Florida, and Bristow, Virginia. It was not immediately clear what proportion of these girls had been separated from their families versus crossing the border alone. The agency also didn’t say how many other facilities are housing girls, or where they might be located.
The Homestead facility — a former Job Corps site that is currently holding more than 1,100 children — was reopened earlier this year, after it was shut down in 2017 following a steep dip in the number of illegal border crossings, according to the Miami Herald. Sen. Bill Nelson and Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz were both barred from entering the Homestead location when they attempted to do so earlier this week.

HHS just blocked us from entering its facility in Homestead, Florida to check on the welfare of the children being held here. They are obviously hiding something, and we are going to get to the bottom of this.
The company running this facility told us we would be welcomed to tour the facility. HHS then denied us entry and said that they need “two weeks notice” to allow us inside. That’s ridiculous and it’s clear this administration is hiding something.
The Bristow facility, meanwhile is tied to the nonprofit Youth for Tomorrow, an organization started by Joe Gibbs, the former coach of Washington, DC’s football team, according to CNN.
HHS photos of the facilities show large gymnasium-like rooms packed with bunk beds along with children eating in a cafeteria and sitting in an auditorium. The way the photos are cropped makes it hard to tell how old the children are. Both facilities house teenage children, with the Bristow location also housing “tender age” children, according to HHS.

Immigrant children at a cafeteria in the HHS Homestead, Florida, facility.
 Department of Health and Human Services
Bunk beds in the HHS Homestead facility.
 Department of Health and Human Services
Immigrant children in the HHS Homestead facility.
 Department of Health and Human Services
Immigrant children sit in an auditorium in the HHS Bristow, Virginia, facility.
 Department of Health and Human Services

There’s also some evidence that girls have been sent elsewhere: A report from NY1 found that girls were also being sent to a foster agency as far as New York City. Video captured by the network showed girls headed to a facility late Wednesday night, and Gov. Andrew Cuomo told the network that the girls were among the approximately 2,000 kids recently separated from their parents along the southern border.

There’s a lot we don’t know about how the government is handling separated children

The information HHS released is unlikely to settle the #WhereAreTheGirls question, particularly given the news that the Trump administration has no plan to reunite families separated at the border.
Democratic members of Congress pushed it to the forefront on Twitter again Thursday morning:

3,289 girls are in the unaccompanied alien children program. How many of them were separated from their parents at the border? None of the images of detained migrant children picture girls. Where are the girls? Why doesn't anyone know ?

. @SecNielsen, I have a question. Where are the girls? Every American with a conscience wants to know. Young migrant girls came to the U.S. to flee the violence back home. Tearing them away from their families exacerbates their trauma.
That’s not the only unanswered question. Where are the youngest children being kept? How many babies and young children have been separated from their parents? How can parents and children be reunited?
For now, the Trump administration isn’t saying.

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Optional work camps for the homeless

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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
Optional work camps for the homeless
This idea came to me, there could be work camps for the homeless. They would be optional. You would get a place to sleep, food to eat, and bathrooms with showers for being in the work camp and doing your job. And you would get a minor amount of money for your work, but the bulk of your reward would be food and board. The work would be mostly labor work, and could be simple tasks but still hard work. Perhaps local businesses could have small jobs they need done worked on at the camps, and in return they provide some financing.

This might be good for homeless who are looking to get out of being homeless and teach them new job skills and life skills too.
EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
1. Arbeit macht frei.

tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
11. Ever heard of the CCC?
Possibly the most successful of the New Deal programs.

Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
Did they round up people and put them in camps too?

tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
37. Look up "optional" in the dictionary.
You apparently have a limited vocabulary.

Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
116. That's a *truly* assholish reply. I asked about the program YOU were referring to.
/ignore at long last, go spread your misery elsewhere.

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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
431. Look up "work camps" in the history books.
The association isn't a particularly pleasant one.

EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
103. The CCC employed people honestly
That's in part why it was successful. You could do things like have a family life, choose where you live - stuff like that. That was possible because workers in the CCC were paid in money, not room&board. That's what gives people the freedom to make their own decisions.

Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
117. Thank you.

dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
161. Exactly.
The CCC also worked on projects, like wind breaks, that benefited everyone. They were not handed over to private businesses as slave labor as OP suggests be done with the homeless.

My uncle was in the CCC and not only did it give him a job He also learned skills that helped him eventually start a very successful business.

Then he turned Republican. I have clear memories from my childhood of he and my dad periodically having the same argument that would eventually lead to Dad yelling "You wouldn't be where you are today without Roosevelt and the Democrats!"

EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
168. My grandfather was in the CCC as a young man
He eventually became the assistant Postmaster General of the US for the midwest. Had the CCC been this program however, he never would have earned enough money to leave.

Make good money, 5 dollars a day
Make any more, I might move away

Grateful Dead, Cumberland Blues

seattleblue Donating Member (437 posts) | |
229. Not true at all.
CCC workers were paid in money, $30 a month with a compulsory allotment $22–25 sent to a family dependent, as well as room, food, clothing and medical care.

Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
272. What cost $30 in 1935 would cost $464.07 in 2009
So about $500/mo + housing/food + medical

They also received clothing and a "chance for schooling" - whatever that means.

Better than housing + food which is the same great deal slaves & concentration camp inmates got.

LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
285. You forgot the forced labor
For Siemens and Krup, I guess.

Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
356. economic force is also force & slave pay is slave pay

seattleblue Donating Member (437 posts) | |
360. You are absolutely right. Better than housing and food only.
Unfortunately it was very limited. You had to be under 25 and have a family member dependent on you.

EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
327. How is that not honest pay for that time?
The point is, people weren't paid in room&board with a trifling allowance. Anyone in a situation like that finds out pretty rapidly that they can't make enough money to get away from the situation if they want to, and it becomes indentured servitude.

seattleblue Donating Member (437 posts) | |
359. I'm sure it was honest pay
But you said they weren't paid for room and board but in fact that was part of their pay. The CCC was fairly restrictive. It was limited to those 18-24 and you had to have a family dependent.

EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
387. Not at all what I meant
If a worker gets paid a good salary, and then has R&B included, good for them. It's an extra benefit that way. If a worker gets paid R&B and a minimal amount of money, then it's indentured servitude for all practical purposes. The first way gives workers control over their situation, the second doesn't.

seattleblue Donating Member (437 posts) | |
396. Point well taken.
However some posters here seem to think the CCC were not camps. They certainly were work camps. How much control they had over that I don't know. But I fully support a CCC concept.

LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
284. Exactly -- the OP isn't talking about the CCC
One of my grandfathers and great uncles WORKED for them, and helped build a state park, and it was a terrific EMPLOYMENT program. I think the Government should do something like that now.

But CAMPS? wwwttfff

Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
439. you said it

tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
325. CCC workers enlisted, like you do in the Army.
They lived in camps and got paid about $25 a month, which was pretty good at the time. Most of the money was sent back home.

I'm not sure what you're talking about "having a family life."

The workers didn't have their families in the camps and many worked thousands of miles from home.

EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
328. Here's what the difference is:
paid about $25 a month, which was pretty good at the time.

That's a damn sight different than being paid room&board as a majority.

And what I mean by family life is that the homeless problem today goes well beyond single people being out of work. Homeless families are very common. How would someone take advantage of this situation if they had children, and most of their pay is room&board? That forces their families into the system too.

DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
462. Ain't that the truth!

Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
2. There has to be a better name for this than "work camps"
Bring a sort of Nazi-ish vision into my head.

Just sayin'.

jdp349 Donating Member (372 posts) | |
170. Happy Camps?
I like the sound of that.

wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
174. Comes with a small, plastic toy
for your children to amuse themselves with while you spend eleven hours a day picking up highway litter instead of being their parent.

grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
3. I believe this used to be called "the poor farm"
My former MIL lived in fear of being sent to one for years after the Great Depression.

grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
9. images

grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
15. kansas poor farm

HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
502. Nah, cause then the government and business would just start
Using them to undercut unions and we'd have even more poor people.

EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
96. Can you believe we're actually discussing poor farms on DU?

bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
109. Yes, I believe it. :( The "New" Dems are Republican lite, and they love it that way.
Just think how superior you would feel, bossing around those homeless captives!

Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
118. Really, we are being squeezed out of this party little by little.
Unconscionable, these "new" Democratic ideas.

bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
124. Oh, I think its BIIIG steps.
"Mother may I?"

Seriously, I really want these types to have to experience everything that they propose for the "other".

And, serve alongside Tancredo when they do it!


Thanks... it really does help to know that friends like you are seeing what we homeless people are truly up against.

Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
129. No outreached hand, no breaks, no empathy, just quid pro quo.
And you get to live in a camp as your reward.

Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
208. Isn't it repulsive?
This is being seriously proposed on DU?

ON DU??!?!?!?

When something like this is put forward with a straight face at a place like DU, that's pretty much the final confirmation that this country has jumped the shark.

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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
269. Bobbolink's "Imaginary Plight?"
Grats on outing yourself. Burning one with 95 posts already? Bad form. Back to the cave with you.

I smell anchovies.

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rbrnmw Donating Member (789 posts) | |
176. You can thank the DLC nt

LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
Shouldn't we be helping the homeless and the other unemployed? Maybe take the billions being pissed away in Iraq and Afghanistan, and put ut to use here? Make corps quit outsourcing, create a CCC 2010?

Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
463. .

Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
405. Yes
"DU is a diverse community." :D

Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
188. My stepfather and his brother and mother spent time in one. She was a former schoolteacher
whose husband abandoned her during the Depression.

In those days schoolteachers were often itinerant & low-paid, moving from school to school depending on funding availability. no protections such as teachers have today.

the kind of system arne-ed is moving toward.

OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
194. Also called the work house. :-(

LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
286. I completely forgot about these -- good call
Children were horribly sexually and physically abused at these places, btw.

Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
4. "bulk of your reward would be food and board"
Company store anyone?


awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
52. I've got Ernie Fords...
"16 Tons" running through my head.

miscsoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
73. awoke_in_2003 watch this
it will make your head hurt

it's a GE ad!

They don't even edit out "I owe my soul to the company store"

awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
136. I'll check it out when I go home...
work blocks out youtube (or anything fun, for that matter).

Spheric Donating Member (512 posts) | |
156. That ad. Holy crap. On so many levels. I'm speechless.


AmandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
337. sweet jeebus
after seeing those buff shiny, glossy, gorgeous ladies working in sport bras, well, I can't even come up with words. Talk about brave new world propaganda.

arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
5. Sounds like a positive step to me
especially for those who had drug/alcohol issues and don't have any work history to speak of. As long as the system is setup so that they can actually move up in the world afterward, and not be stuck there because they don't make enough $ to leave.

But yeah, "work camp" probably isn't the best term :)

Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
6. And if the businesses receiving the labor were getting it at below-market rates
then eventually you have incentive for more homelessness, not unlike our current prison-industrial-complex, nor unlike our current military-industrial-complex.

Sorry but it seems like a slippery slope we don't need more of.

Prisoner's get something like $1 per day for their labor, what incentive do businesses that use that labor have to pay actual living wages to anyone else? So they stop paying living wages to people with homes and pretty soon those people become homeless and then get the priviledge to work for those same businesses for pennies on the dollar.

This shit should never be allowed.

Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
210. +1. Thank you.
Not only is this idea abominably wrong and stupid from a moral perspective, it also makes zero pragmatic sense.

sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
413. I was going to say we already have 'work camps' in our
inhumane prison industrial complex. Motivation to make more laws entrapping the poor who can then be used as slave labor by big corporations. Soon they won't even have to outsource labor to third world countries who are now demanding higher pay anyhow. They are slowly turning this country into a huge, cheap labor force for Big Business.

BP has been taking advantage of our prison 'work camps' rather than hiring the people they put our of work.

U.S.A. Numero Uno? Not anymore.

asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
7. Please tell me this is a fucking joke.
Please tell me you are not really this dim witted or this insensitive.

Please tell me this is a poor attempt at a Jonathan Swift type commentary.

bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
110. The joke's on US.
Insensitivity is IN, brother.

Now see why I have been completely discouraged???? THIS is the mentality.

I need a friend.

asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
152. I know you need a friend bobbo, we all do.
Know that everyone doesn't have this mindset.

unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
197. see my post 196
it looks like you have a few friends here. :hug:

I can't believe someone would post that shit here.

Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) | |
383. You've a few, though we are almost universally helpless and separated
by geography.

Pole Shift and YOU the Climate Changes will force you into all kinds of things, and your enemies to do all kinds of things to you.

The East African Rift is God at work preparing our real Land.  The divisions of the Earth are based upon a different world alignment.  East Africa all the way to India is ours.  The movements have you going to West Africa.

Why so?

Europe is going under water and will be in the position of the North Pole.  This is why you have forces pushing you “back to Africa” and funding such movements.  They want “breathing room” to be able to “resettle” Europeans in the Americas.  ALL NEGROES IN THE AMERICAS ARE JUDITES, BENJAMINITES AND LEVITES.  THE WHOLE 12 TRIBES IN AFRICA MOVEMENT IS TO PUSH YOU PREMATURELY “BACK TO AFRICA.”  This is funded by the whole German-Russo Empire (Eurasian Union).  THIS IS A TRAP, HOWEVER.  They plan to also take Africa and South America for themselves.  This is the whole point of migration.  They plan to bring African migrants up to Europe and have the pole shift kill them off.  The Camps in the Americas are to finish us off.  All you have to do at the camps is just poison the food or send a virus out, and boom we're gone.  Those "going back to Africa" cats will be finished off as Africa will be the killing fields of World War III.

The Earth Divided Into Three Parts For Shem And Ham And Japheth

1 In the twenty-ninth jubilee, in the first week, [1373 A.M.] in the beginning thereof Arpachshad took to himself a wife and her name was Rasu'eja, the daughter of Susan, the daughter of Elam, and she bare him a son in the third year in this week, [1375 A.M.] and he called his name Kainam.
2 And the son grew, and his father taught him writing, and he went to seek for himself a place where he might seize for himself a city.
3 And he found a writing which former (generations) had carved on the rock, and he read what was thereon, and he transcribed it and sinned owing to it; for it contained the teaching of the Watchers in accordance with which they used to observe the omens of the sun and moon and stars in all the signs of heaven.
4 And he wrote it down and said nothing regarding it; for he was afraid to speak to Noah about it lest he should be angry with him on account of it.
5 And in the thirtieth jubilee, [1429 A.M.] in the second week, in the first year thereof, he took to himself a wife, and her name was Melka, the daughter of Madai, the son of Japheth, and in the fourth year [1432 A.M.] he begat a son, and called his name Shelah; for he said: 'Truly I have been sent.'
6 [And in the fourth year he was born], and Shelah grew up and took to himself a wife, and her name was Mu'ak, the daughter of Kesed, his father's brother, in the one and thirtieth jubilee, in the fifth week, in the first year [1499 A.M.] thereof.
7 And she bare him a son in the fifth year [1503 A.M.] thereof, and he called his name Eber: and he took unto himself a wife, and her name was 'Azurad, the daughter of Nebrod, in the thirty-second jubilee, in the seventh week, in the third year thereof. [1564 A.M.]
8 And in the sixth year [1567 A.M.] thereof, she bare him son, and he called his name Peleg; for in the days when he was born the children of Noah began to divide the earth amongst themselves: for this reason he called his name Peleg.
9 And they divided it secretly amongst themselves, and told it to Noah.
10 And it came to pass in the beginning of the thirty-third jubilee [1569 A.M.] that they divided the earth into three parts, for Shem and Ham and Japheth, according to the inheritance of each, in the first year in the first week, when one of us who had been sent, was with them.
11 And he called his sons, and they drew nigh to him, they and their children, and he divided the earth into the lots, which his three sons were to take in possession, and they reached forth their hands, and took the writing out of the bosom of Noah, their father.
12 And there came forth on the writing as Shem's lot the middle of the earth which he should take as an inheritance for himself and for his sons for the generations of eternity, from the middle of the mountain range of Rafa, from the mouth of the water from the river Tina, and his portion goes towards the west through the midst of this river, and it extends till it reaches the water of the abysses, out of which this river goes forth and pours its waters into the sea Me'at, and this river flows into the great sea. And all that is towards the north is Japheth's, and all that is towards the south belongs to Shem.
13 And it extends till it reaches Karaso: this is in the bosom of the tongue which looks towards the south.
14 And his portion extends along the great sea, and it extends in a straight line till it reaches the west of the tongue which looks towards the south: for this sea is named the tongue of the Egyptian Sea.
15 And it turns from here towards the south towards the mouth of the great sea on the shore of (its) waters, and it extends to the west to 'Afra, and it extends till it reaches the waters of the river Gihon, and to the south of the waters of Gihon, to the banks of this river.
16 And it extends towards the east, till it reaches the Garden of Eden, to the south thereof, [to the south] and from the east of the whole land of Eden and of the whole east, it turns to the east and proceeds till it reaches the east of the mountain named Rafa, and it descends to the bank of the mouth of the river Tina.
17 This portion came forth by lot for Shem and his sons, that they should possess it forever unto his generations forevermore.
18 And Noah rejoiced that this portion came forth for Shem and for his sons, and he remembered all that he had spoken with his mouth in prophecy; for he had said: 'Blessed be YAHWEH ALMIGHTY of Shem And may YAHWEH dwell in the dwelling of Shem.'
19 And he knew that the Garden of Eden is the kodesh of kodeshim, and the dwelling of YAHWEH, and Mount Sinai the centre of the desert, and Mount Zion -the centre of the navel of the earth: these three were created as kodesh places facing each other.
20 And he blessed the ALMIGHTY of gods, who had put the Word of YAHWEH into his mouth, and YAHWEH forevermore.
21 And he knew that a blessed portion and a blessing had come to Shem and his sons unto the generations forever -the whole land of Eden and the whole land of the Red Sea, and the whole land of the east and India, and on the Red Sea and the mountains thereof, and all the land of Bashan, and all the land of Lebanon and the islands of Kaftur, and all the mountains of Sanir and 'Amana, and the mountains of Asshur in the north, and all the land of Elam, Asshur, and Babel, and Susan and Ma'edai, and all the mountains of Ararat, and all the region beyond the sea, which is beyond the mountains of Asshur towards the north, a blessed and spacious land, and all that is in it is very good.
22 And for Ham came forth the second portion, beyond the Gihon towards the south to the right of the Garden, and it extends towards the south and it extends to all the mountains of fire, and it extends towards the west to the sea of 'Atel and it extends towards the west till it reaches the sea of Ma'uk -that (sea) into which everything which is not destroyed descends.
23 And it goes forth towards the north to the limits of Gadir, and it goes forth to the coast of the waters of the sea to the waters of the great sea till it draws near to the river Gihon, and goes along the river Gihon till it reaches the right of the Garden of Eden.
24 And this is the land which came forth for Ham as the portion which he was to occupy forever for himself and his sons unto their generations forever.
25 And for Japheth came forth the third portion beyond the river Tina to the north of the outflow of its waters, and it extends north-easterly to the whole region of Gog, and to all the country east thereof.
26 And it extends northerly to the north, and it extends to the mountains of Qelt towards the north, and towards the sea of Ma'uk, and it goes forth to the east of Gadir as far as the region of the waters of the sea.
27 And it extends until it approaches the west of Fara and it returns towards 'Aferag, and it extends easterly to the waters of the sea of Me'at.
28 And it extends to the region of the river Tina in a north-easterly direction until it approaches the boundary of its waters towards the mountain Rafa, and it turns round towards the north.
29 This is the land which came forth for Japheth and his sons as the portion of his inheritance which he should possess for himself and his sons, for their generations forever; five great islands, and a great land in the north.
30 But it is cold, and the land of Ham is hot, and the land of Shem is neither hot nor cold, but it is of blended cold and heat.
A whole lot more on this in Part 3 WITH MORE MAPS.

At the end of the day this is all about offending the Children, but what does Christ say about that?

Mark 9

34 But they held their peace: for by the way they had disputed among themselves, who should be the greatest.
35 And he sat down, and called the twelve, and saith unto them, If any man desire to be first, the same shall be last of all, and servant of all.
36 And he took a child, and set him in the midst of them: and when he had taken him in his arms, he said unto them,
37 Whosoever shall receive one of such children in my name, receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me, receiveth not me, but him that sent me.
38 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.
39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.
40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
41 For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.
42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
49 For every one shall be salted with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt.
50 Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his saltness, wherewith will ye season it? Have salt in yourselves, and have peace one with another.

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